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TD Barnes is a former field engineer at NASA who also served in Special Projects at Area 51.His engineering work extended to the X-15, XB-70, lifting bodies, and lunar landing vehicles, as well as NASA's NERVA nuclear rocket project at Jackass Flats, Nevada.
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OUTLINE
00:00 - Tracking high-speed aircraft for NASA
05:01 - Newly declassified 1960s CIA projects
07:38 - CIA operated Area 51 in secret for 20 years
13:48 - Operation Northwoods
16:50 - Attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro
19:58 - Getting recruited to work at Area 51
29:53 - Aircraft tests at Area 51
36:47 - Early days of Area 51 mystery
46:26 - Sheep dipping CIA recruitment tactic
51:24 - What we're still using U2 aircraft for
54:20 - Origin of UFO myths at Area 51
57:47 - Why Bob Lazar's Area 51 story can't be real
01:01:31 - Truth about S4 "Site 4"
01:02:45 - Annie Jacobsen is persona non grata
01:09:09 - Pilot reports of UAPs
01:17:28 - Plasma, anti-gravity & acoustic radar
01:21:26 - TD doesn't believe in non-human entities
01:31:16 - ECMs and ECCMs
01:38:07 - TD's work with the DIA
01:39:59 - Project Redlight
01:44:01 - Where the new "Area 51" is located
01:46:19 - The X-15 program
01:53:29 - Radiation exposure at Area 51
02:02:57 - Atmospheric EMP tests
02:08:16 - Nuclear sites shut down by UAPs
02:11:55 - "AI scares me to death"
02:16:49 - CIA's battle with Air Force & NASA